I'd say a few elements influenced him, however that's not to say that the JJverse ship is unoriginal or uninspired. I really like JJ's take, it's as graceful and gorgeous as the TOS cast described her.
Suppose not, I've seen quite a lot of others who already have without asking. But yeah, by all means. I look forward to seeing what you do with it, I'm always wanting to see any and all new Trek ships.
What I disliked about what we got was not that it was different... its that there were design choices that were just painful to look at. As a graphic designer, the first thing I always notice is how unbalanced it is. And I have NEVER liked the warp nacelle pylons to arch, especially not inward. The whole thing would look SO much better if the pylons were straight out, instead of curved. It just pulls the fat nacelles in too close together, on top of making no sense structurally.
This was the one Gabe Kroener designed that everyone had assumed was the official STXI Enterprise. As for the design itself, I don't mind the curved nacelle pylons because I like to assume that futuristic technology may be different from that of what we know today and that the stresses could be in places we couldn't even assume. As a fellow designer (though I tend to do it by hand rather than draw it out) have you ever tried designing your own Trek ship without using any parts from canon Trek? It's an interesting design challenge if you're looking for one.
It is a design challenge indeed, and a difficult one. But considering even Star Trek itself has had so many lazy design fails (like Enterprise NX-01 being little more than an upside-down Akira-class).
For me, its not about the JJ-Enterprise looking too different, its the fact that the design feels so unbalanced. The saucer is HUGE, yet the hull is incredibly thin. The nacelles (which are my favorite part) are large like the saucer, but the inward arching pylons pull them WAY too close together....
Look at it this way, Enterprise used to look like a Stetson on a well-built cowboy... and now it looks like a Sombrero on a short skinny white-boy... I hate to keep using the word "unbalanced" but that's exactly it.
This is indeed a good take on the Enterprise. The features from the Gabe Koerner design keep the feel of the original while the mods from the Jj Abrams design and a flair that even the original was lacking. But I think, most important of all is that the engineering hull looks sizeable on it's own rather than fudging the ships measurements so they're different depending on the source.
More important than which is better than the other though, Congrats man. It can not have been easy to build this design and you deserve major kudos for making it look so fantastic! She's a major beaut
Idk, I like the new movie's ship. She looks recognizable, but at the same time looks completely new.
I blame channels like G4 (which I watch constantly), it's due to them that we need a SUPER TECHNO LOOKING SHIP to get anyone interested. But that's fine by me. It's supposed to be 200 years from now, technology will VASTLY change by then.
well, my main problem with the new ship is the fact that the secondary hull sticks out forward WAY too far - it sticks out like.... well, I dont know what its like, but its still ugly. If they just moved it back a bit, it would have been just fine.
I will say, though, I like the new warp nacelles. They have a cool shape. I wish the pylons didn't arc inward though.
Well yeah, I'm all for this new movie. Its a new take on an old favorite. Star Trek needs a fresh pair of eyes about now anyway. Goes back to one of the Ferengi Rules of Acquisition (I believe) "Expand... or die"
I cant wait to see what JJ does with Trek. I consider myself a hardcore fan (one of the only ones who liked every series and movie), and I am moderately excited about this new film.
Oh yeah, and the link you sent me, that is the one I was referring to. I liked this version of the ship so much better. She's sleek, but not too sleek. Got the grungy functional look, yet still as great lines.
And another touch I liked, on a flyby video I saw of it, the warp coils actually rotate, and are visible through the transparency on top of the nacelles. Alternating rotation, coinciding with the rotating lights on the ramscoops (a nod to the original series ship). I guess JJ thought this was too much like the original, which I kinda understand in his case.